State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Posted by Chamber Grassroots on January 25th at 9:58am

If you watched the president’s State of the Union address last night, you witnessed a speech that focused on many issues central to our economy. Unfortunately, he missed the mark. As U.S. Chamber President Tom Donohue said after the speech:

"Too many of the solutions he proposed rest on higher taxes, more spending, and an avalanche of new regulations. The way to create the jobs Americans need is to grow our free enterprise economy, not to further expand the federal government."

Click here to read the letter.We’re ready to work with anyone in Congress or the White House on solutions that will put Americans back to work without raising taxes or adding to the deficit. Read the Chamber’s jobs plan here.

It’s possible. And it’s time to demand real solutions.

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41 Comments


The real issue is how big the role should the government play?

Obama wants the government to be a big dad with various social programs paid by increasing taxes to create jobs and to help the poor.

The Republic wants government getting out of the way and let private sector do it's magic via capitalism by reducing taxes and create jobs.

This is a big debate about socialist vs capitalist just like Taiwan's 統獨之爭。

It raises the question about fundamental American's democratic system which is modeled and admired as the best around the world.

The Great Recession creates doubts in people's mind on this best system which we all take it for granted. It is a once-in-a-life-time debate during the Rise of China.

It's long term implication is far-reaching and worldwide.

We should not take this debate lightly.

WF

By waifah chen

January 27th at 5:09pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I watched the State of the Union last night - not live - but in repeat.

Last night's speech was a campaign speech more than a report on the State of the United States of America. I wanted to hear how Obama thinks we are faring. I heard rah rah for voting for Obama.

The cameras repeatedly showing Warren Buffet's secretary was pure snake oil salesmanship (with apologies to any and all snake oil salesmen). While Mr. Buffet may have a lesser overall percentage in comparison to gross income than his secretary, I have a hard time believing he pays less taxes.

Free Enterprise would be a nice thing in our economy. However, that being said, true Free Enterprise would require the repealing of a ga-zillion regulations. I read an interesting statidtic some months ago concerning regulation. It compared the length of several well known items such as the Lord's Prayer, the Gettysburg Address, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independance (1,337 words) with the regulations concerning growing cabbage for sale (in excess of 27.000 words). The government regulations crush small business.

I have not magic wand. I do believe we need to bring manufacturing back into this country as well as trade education. I do believe we need to engage in equitable trade with foriegn countries. I cannot fault the business which decides to get the most bang for a buck and manufacture overseas.

Finally, I believe that while the push for alternative energy is a good trend, I firmly believe we need to develop our own oil resources as well as the capacity to refine all the oil we could put into the pipeline.

I have no idea or whom I will vote (I am tired of the lesser of two evils) but I can guarantee you that I do not want Obama to serve a second term. I feel our last two presidents have put a for sale sign on our country and it is time to take it back from politicians who have no idea what it is like to live on a budget, illegal immigrants who flaunt our laws and trade "partners" who undercut our prices.

By Betsy Keyser

January 26th at 9:57pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

After reading a few comments I remain in awe of the CofC membership's ignorance of simple facts related to the SOTU. For example, taxes are very unpopular, no matter whether the evidence they won't hurt the economy exists or not. As it happens, historically taxes have been *highest* on the wealthy, and taxes on imports have been highest during the best of times for the U.S. economy. See http://www.alternet.org/economy/106979 ("Why the Economy Grows Like Crazy Amid High Taxes").

Then there are those lobbying for the XL pipeline. Don't you know this is to export oil to China? Oil is fungible, in any case, and all this would do is endanger aquifers and send the oil we refine overseas. We could create far more jobs, and save more oil than this boondoggle would produce, by encouraging conservation.

...and never mind whether climate instability is a hoax, U.S. domestic oil production peaked in the early 1970s. No amount of "drill baby drill" (or fracking) will return us to that peal. This is, incidentally, according to the American Petroleum Institute. That's the oil lobby. The cost of oil in 1971: $1.75/bbl, with 30% imports. Currently the price is $40 - $140/bbl, and imports run 50-70%. Thank Ronnie Reagan for terminating the Carter-era programs that would have changed that.

Incidentally, I don't much like Obama (he and Bush 43 are literally the most corrupt presidents in U.S. history), but I really dislike the scary-Iran meme he has promoted. Iran has an economy the size of Connecticut's and a military budget literally 1/100th of ours. Iran has not attacked its neighbors, the U.S. has. Yes, it incarcerates political prisoners, but the U.S. incarcerates people at five times the world average. (See "The New Jim Crow" for more about this pernicious, and non-crime-reducing tactic...and thank Ronnie Reagan for the drug war that leads to this awful wasted)

Oh yes, and another reason oil prices are high: Tension in the Middle East! Could big oil be fomenting such tension to its own advantage? ...and is the Pope really Catholic?

Wake up!

By Adam Eran

January 26th at 1:31pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

It is a shame that our country is so divided. Why should their have to be democratics or republicans. We are a people, and we should vote on a president that is able to bring us out of the disaster that we are in. I don't put the blame on Obama, he tried. There were some things that he accomplished, but not all of the things that needed to be done. Let's just vote on the most qualified person, no matter the race, creed, color, religion or political identification. We are making our days shorter upon this earth, because it is indicated in the bible that when there is so much chaos that we cannot recognize summer and winter (when have you ever known of a tornado in January as was 01/2012), when there is conflict within our own governments (republicans and democratics), and diseases in this world that a doctor cannot cure (aids and others), "I am coming back." So I ask that we please make peace within ourselves, appreciate whatever has already been done, select a president that you feel can accomplish the mission, and pray.

By Denise Denise

January 26th at 1:15pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Four years is time enough to allow us to decide whether or not we want to give someone more time to accomplish anything. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Let Congress abide by the SAME rules they subject us to and we'll see what happens.

By Mary Davenport

January 26th at 11:44am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

From The U.S. Constitution it is clear what a State of the Union address by a President should be. I cannot find anywhere that allows campaigning, lying, or blaming others anywhere. It also does not give the rules for complaining or stating personal agendas. I only heard commands from Obama, starting with the “I”, but he must remember, he can only recommend…what were his recommendations anyways? I guess I forgot already.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress
He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

By AZ Waldo

January 26th at 11:35am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Keep the goverment out of our business! They can't even run the country without destroying it. Now he wants to tell the Universities what they can charge for tuition?? If they charge too much, people won't attend....it's call free enterprise. What happened to the Constitution and Bill of Rights? He promised CHANGE....unfortunately, it's just not the change we were looking for. All but one of his own financial advisors have given up and left (that should tell you something). He has failed on everying and we need to get rid of him now.

By Kathi Cowham

January 26th at 10:06am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

James Lee – No need to apologize for a few typos! It’s the real American way though, find what is wrong, fix it and move on!

My only disagreement with your comments is that Cuba is too close. When we talk of people like John Jost and the like, we need to include Obama, his czars and move the whole caboodle! In fact we should just donate “share” Air Force One, the motorcade, and John Jost, and then ship them off to a place like Iran, not Cuba!! That way they can all go inside each others’ tents and verify that they all have the same amount of marbles and no one has more than the other – LOL!

By PS Holmes

January 26th at 10:01am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Yup... Before anyone responds to my comment, I see that "their" should have been "there".
and Oboma should be Obama. Just paying my due respect.

By James Lee

January 26th at 9:43am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

What I heard from Oboma, in the state of the union address was ..."I need more time to put this fire out that the Republicans started, so keep me in for four more years, and I will put the fire out, by dousing it with gasoline that you evil, corporate job creators can pay for."...Jon JOst, their is a country that you described. It's called "Cuba". I suggest you do our country a favor and move their with all your simple, like minded friends..

By James Lee

January 26th at 9:30am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Not as polically savvy as previous comments but just makes sense to me that our economy would improve if we do the following: 1. START ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER AS CONCERNED, INTELLIGENT CITIZENS & NOT AS DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS!
2. Don't raise the capital gains tax to 30%!! A very dangerous/disatrous thing to do.
3. Get rid of frivilious programs that serve absolutely NO purpose!
4. Abolish the Gov. from providing you with THEIR health care unless they are willing to use it for themselves!!
5. Get rid of EPA, Planned Parenthood, Solar energy investments, & any other programs that either serve NO valuable interest or are murdering babies!!
6. Place Congress on a part time working plan in Washington & more time serving their states!

By Judy Fine

January 26th at 9:04am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

When I sit down to listen to a speech titled “The State of the Union”, I expect to hear what the state of the union is. I expect to hear measurement of progress against goals and promises made. Perhaps two columns, the left column would list promises and goals, the right column lists what has been achieved thus far.

Obama cannot do this. He has failed miserably on everything. He cannot possibly list a single thing that “the people” wanted or expected thus far. He is the worst president this country has ever experienced, the greatest threat to our national security, and is destined to bring us to our knees for his fellow Muslims throughout the world. He is the greatest terrorist this country has ever had to deal with next to Bin Laden, but he sits in our national treasure – the White House.

The speech he gave was nothing but empty phrases, lies, and full of “I” this and “I” that. His dream is not one of an American, but of a wanna be American on his terms and his terms only, and for all his cronies throughout the USA and world. The kick-off to his campaign.

I thought this country had more intelligent people than not, but it is quite apparent that too many Americans have drank the Kool-Aid, and lost their minds. He was in our state of Arizona yesterday, taking credit for an Intel Plant that has been under constant expansion for many years prior to him taking office. That plant has been planned since the mid-90’s when I worked for the power company. It is nothing new, in fact just the final phase of a bigger picture that was under development when Obama was marching around Chicago asking for government hand-outs.

He disgraced himself and his position for the rude and disrespect of our Governor yesterday, who by the way has more gonads than he will ever have. He is thin skinned, a child of no temperament, and a disgrace to this nation. If he was going to bow and kiss anyone with strength and willpower, it should be Governor Brewer, rather than a king of a nation that has done nothing but kill our economy via oil gouging.

He is a fake, deserves no time, and I know we will be better off if anyone but Obama holds the White House after the November election. I hope America will gain from this historical lesson of what a total freeloader, socialist, and wanna be dictator can do to a great nation in just 4 years.

Get out and vote, and vote to get him out!

By PS Holmes

January 26th at 9:01am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I am always amazed at the total ignorance of the Obama supporters. They want us to believe that they are really informed but in reality they support Obama his like most students support their teams at their school's pep rally. The democrats took control of both houses of congress is Nov of 2006. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi did everything they could to counter whatever President Bush wanted to do. This is when the downturn in the economy started. Remember, every piece of legislation starts in the Congress, not at the President desk. The problem with democrats is they never take responsibility for the outcome of their policies. They always say that they need either more time or more money, but never admit that their policy was bad. Judge a tree by the fruit it produces. What democrat policies have worked out the way that they were supposed to?

By Mark Collins

January 26th at 7:57am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I agree a lot with Obama. Should we go backwards instead of forward? has everyone forgotten what happened when the banks and oil companies were deregulated? Yes we are in a recession. Do you expect us to get out of the recession overnight? look at how many years it took us to get out of a recession in the 1930's. Has everyone forgotten how we got into this mess in the first place? Has everyone forgotten who caused the recession and how? I read the comments and I hear people talking. I do not understand why any of you want to go back to the same policies that got us into this mess. Has everyone forgotten who got us into two wars, one of which was not necessary? Have everyone forgotten how if anyone criticized the then President Busch, you were fired from your job or banned from the radio? Obama came into office with a lot on his plate. He came in where we have two wars, a recession, and almost all of our allies who were upset with the United States.
Do you really want to go back to that? Obama has been working hard to overturn all of this. He is working in a Congress that is fighting him tooth and nail, who is not interested in the American welfare but in making Obama a one term President. It is true, I do not agree with all of Obama's policies but it is better than all of the other polices being proposed where we would go backwards instead of forward and where our recession would only get worse. Do all of you want the big coorporations to still rule America? It is your choice but look back into history and see which policies worked and which one failed.

By Darryl McAlary

January 26th at 4:41am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I watched the SOTU Speech...very disappointed. Just one point, the next time someone compares the tax rate of the rich to that of the por or middle class point out that the money any of us has to spend is measured in terms of $'s not %'s. The "Buffet" rule...highlights tax rates, not taxes paid as though the rate is the most important fact...NOT. Buffet's secretary may have paid a different percentage...maybe even a higher percentage than Buffet, but she did not pay more $'s than Buffet. It's the $'s that count, not the percentage. No one pays for a gallon of gas with a percentage...they spend $'s. Our Treasury collects $'s not %'s and it spends $'s, not %'s. We should not get hung up on percentages...talk dollars...actual money, otherwise the argument gets clouded and is made to appear other than it is.

By James (call me Jim) Beltz

January 26th at 1:55am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Obamacare invites socialistic rule. Give the government rule over healthcare, and they decide who gets health care, who doesn't, or how long it takes for an individual to get the care they need. They could die. It could be like signing a death certificate for the elderly, problem pregnancies (the babies-but he doesn't care anyway, he supports anything to do with allowing abortion to continue), those with cancer, and other dibilitatating or terminal diseases. Who gives him the right to play God?
He is saying anything he has to say to get people's votes. He tells of all the "good" he will do by initiating programs, but he doesn't say how he will do it. Get businesses back here... oh, yes, he did say, he'd help those businesses here before he'd help those who relocated overseas, didn't he...in a roundabout way? Why hasn't he tried to do this before the election.? I will believe he is out to build up America-instead of destroy it-when I see it.
I was surprised to see the American Flag behind him instead of curtains with Moslem symbols. Don't get me wrong. I don't consider myself prejudicial to the degree that it permanently controls how I think of different races. Because of my upbringing, I struggle and fight against being prejudicial. Prejudice will not stop until the generations before stop teaching their children to be prejudicial. (It is obvious, I am nor sure about how to spell prejudice...LOL) It is not born into a human being. Prejudice is taught, and will continue to be taught as long as the previous generation teaches it. There are Muslims who do not support the radical agenda of terrorists. Many Muslims get a bad rap because of those few who do support and carry out this agenda. Our president was in office when Ben Laden (I believe that is who it was) was killed. However, did this not begin under the Bush Administration and then carried out under President Obama?
If I got off the president's speech, please forgive me.

We do not need another four years of a President who bows to those who would destroy us. We do not need another four years of leaders saying one thing and doing another. I am all for Republicans, Democrats, and Independants working together to make this nation strong again, but I don't feel like the American people's voices were or are heard and/or listened to like our leaders would like for us to think they were or are being listened to. . Besides, our nation will never be as strong as it once was because the saying "In God We Trust" does not apply as nearly as much as it did at one time. Our strength has been in God Almighty, and now we want to say we can do without him. I don't think so..I know we can't do without HIm and still survive.
If Obama wanted something, he would get it, even if it took getting it behind closed doors. Whose to say this will not happen again. We really do not need this. It has clearly not been four years of a nation ruled "For the people or by the people".

By Carolyn West

January 26th at 12:49am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I do not profess to have a solution to our economic crisis. I am retired, have a modest mortgage and no car payment. I live alone. I have no financial problems and I a high credit rating. I would be considered to be in a lower middle income level.
Here are some thoughts: JonJost writes very well. His point that we need to tighten our belts is well taken. If you have been in retail businesses, particularly restaurants and such, you would wonder if America is truly in some sort of financial difficulty. Strip malls are springing up all the time. The American public probably does spend too much, often frivolously. The fact is the spending drives our economy. Even when individuals don't have the money, they continue to spend by incurring credit card debt. The credit cards are controlled by the banks. Paying a high interest on credit doesn't seem to help our economy. It only helps the bankers. We have to spend, but spend responsibly.

We need a better balance of trade with other countries. If the Republicans criticize Obama's suggestions to "even the playing field of import/export", then come up with a better plan that doesn't rely on government interference. We can't rely on our own people to "buy American".

Obama did put forth that he intends to reduce the interest rate to allow individuals to refinance. I am not sure that helps the government but would help the homeowners who have incurred high mortgage interest. Maybe if one lowers his mortgage payment he will be able to spend more.

It seems that most of the jobs in our economy are centered on people servicing people. As our population grows, more jobs of this type are created. However, for America to truly grow we need more businesses that produce durable goods. Our chemical, pharmaceutical, and software companies, for example, are still strong and help drive our economy.

We definitely need income tax reform. I hope that Republicans can take Cain's 9-9-9 and rework it and make it part of their platform. Even a 10% flat tax would lower taxes for most of America.

I don't see how reducing the payroll tax will help individuals unless they are talking social security and medicare. They will have more to spend but still would be responsible for the same tax.

I agree with Tom Donohue's assessment of Obama's address. We need less government and lower taxes. It is, however, a leap of faith to believe that our free enterprise system will drive our economy forward without any government assistance. For instance, investment in government sponsored scientific research and development and the space program often foster new developments and lead to new products. I think that Obama's clean energy initiative has been his attempt to create such opportunities. Unfortunately he has experienced some blatant failures in that regard. As an aside, such assistance should not benefit relatives and political allies (insiders).

We do need to approve the pipeline and cut America's dependence on foreign oil even more.

RC




By Reynold Clements

January 26th at 12:47am in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I 'm 57. I was in the work force for 32 years. In 2004 I applied for disability. I finally was approved in 2007. I've been struggling ever since on my SSI. I waited 6 years on Housing Authorities list for a Housing Choice Voucher (old Section 8). I finally got it and found a place to live. Things are so bad in the country that agencies such as: Community Action, Catholic Social Services and you name it, can only help the homeless with security deposits and furniture and probably other stuff. Now I have a place to live and nothing to put in it except my clothes. I can't even afford used furnishings. I know there are a lot of people out there who just soak up everything there is from Welfare and Housing that are doing it fraudulently. Plus, I'm not prejudice, but when I go to the Welfare office not a blessed person in there speaks English. I believe something has to be done about foreigners and illegal immigrants. They are getting a lot of benefits that US Citizens need and can't get. I love it when says I can't get help because I make too much money......You trying living on $1500/month and paying rent, utilities, medicare & medicare supplement premiums, co-pays, car insurance, food, gas, and other personal necessities. I was forced to take my pittance of a pension from all those years, but everything I received was penalty taxed and I needed that money so I wouldn't have a foreclosure on my credit report, but that was all in vane because I had lost everything before I received my SSI. I am scared out of my mind that if things continue the way they are Medicare, Housing benefits and Welfare won't exist and I'll be one of the homeless. And lastly, I need Medicare Supplemental and Part D insurance because of all my medical conditions, but the rising costs of premiums and co-pays are outrageous. My medicare supplement went up $25/month for 2012 and my Part D is $26/month. Things are so bad, even food banks don't have the resources that they used to. I'm really scared and I don't know what to do about and I don't have anywhere to go if I should lose everything.

By Joanne Cichetti

January 25th at 11:51pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

It seems to me that the issues in his speech he supported, in actuality he has or wants to destroy. Lets talk about small business, the backbone of America, responsible for providing a huge number of jobs through out America. Are these business owners. the people which have slaved and sacrificed their lives for countless years, risked everything and did without in bad times, provided jobs and benefits to hardworking Americans, lost sleep at night in worry on how to pay their bills and employees. Are these the same people Obama spoke of last night? Are they the same people in which Mr. Obama failed to point out last night are by his standards the Greedy who deserve to be taxed more? The people which are the backbone of the US. for Jobs? Those greedy people who make 250k as they risk all and provide tax paying jobs throughout rural America?

By squeeky Wheel

January 25th at 11:26pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

My thoughts are that it is business as usual. Obama is doing the same old trick as any politician will do to divert the attention away from his failures by drawing attention to other stuff which will not change. All this talk about who pays what tax is not the problem. The problem is the gross irresponsible spending!!! Lets all talk about something that will get everyone fired up like insider trading so Obama can put out a smoke screen to hide his repetitive failures and then say put the bill on his desk and he will sign it. Mr. President stop your irresponsible spending, your smoke screens and put your own stuff on your desk so you can make a law against and already illegal act. See the Anomaly??? Stupid, I am dumbfounded as to how people can take him serious!!!

By squeeky Wheel

January 25th at 11:11pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Whoops it is isn't not isn'r. Sorry.
Peace,
Ross

By Ross Alander

January 25th at 11:04pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

As a small business owner and small business consultant it isn'r either or Government or Free Enterprise but a balance of the two.
Ross
a Jack Kemp Republican (I know an oxymoron these days)

By Ross Alander

January 25th at 10:55pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

What really astounds me is that there are some many gullible people in this world! The person who is our current President, in my opinion, is ill-equipped for his job. I have been part of the executive search industry for over thirty years, and when Mr. Obama was selected as for the candidacy for Pres. of the USA, we performed background check, due diligence, etc. The same that we would do for any CEO/Pres. position that we were hired to fill. After weeks of doing our due diligence, checking whatever references we could, the outcome was very clear that the candidate (Mr. Obama) was ill-equipped for the “position." And his action has bored out our findings... He has no experience as a CEO; he has no track record of any success. He has no traceable track record (a huge red flag), etc. He is inept!
He sounds like a captain of an Italian luxury liner; he was “tripped” and feel in.

But, give him another chance maybe this time he sink us all.

By Stephen A. Karel

January 25th at 10:45pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

The problem with the economy is not enough people have money to buy the goods for companies to stay in business sales are down everywhere and on everything so people are unemployed, on welfare, and Illegal there for there are not enough taxes coming in from those people they are just draining the system. The next problem is the tax system itself flat tax no exceptions no special deductions. The next thing is the housing melt down like alot of many other people I myself was scammed by a preditory lender and lost a house credit ruined, people lost their savings unable to pay bills, again credit ruined so guess what with all these people looking like deadbeats they can not buy the big ticket items that require credit. Now with a lot of companies looking at credit when they are hiring, you are a deadbeat so you can not be trusted to fill the job even though you have a work ethic that has been proven for five, ten, twenty years, you are a deadbeat. So the way I see it eliminate the process of using your credit as a requirement for a job. Abolish the present tax system with a flat tax, eliminate the process of filing taxes because you pay your share no exceptions why do you need to send in paperwork to prove you did. Make everyone pay this flat tax even the illegals. Stop giving grants to schools and others to study things like the mating habits of grasshoppers, migrtory habits of birds and the other stupid stuff. When conress gives money to pay for something nothing can be attached "We need one million reams of paper for the government the cheapest rate is one dollar per ream, the invoice or bill says just that one million reams one millions dollars" sorry the neighborhood surrounding the vendor does not need a half million to upgrade the exit ramp to get there, and the lumber company cutting the trees does not need a half million to study what trees are needed. It is simple clear the roadblock to getting a job, get people back to work, with more people paying taxes the goverment has the money they need provided they do not waste it on special interest. With all these people working and reorganization of the credit agencies maybe people will be able to buy the items they produce.

The Republicans, and their leading candidate, are not making impressive arguments in behalf of the 15% tax on dividends and capital gains.

The double tax argument is the best one, I think, in regard to dividends. Is it Obama fairness to tax the profits of a business paid out to rich and poor alike at a much greater rate than, say, the wages paid out to employees by this same business? This is what causes all that screwing around with partnerships and (usually ill-advised) stock buy-backs.

The arguments for preferential capital gains taxes are different. One argument is the job creation one. However, it begs the age old economic question of which carries the greater weight, hyping capital investment by investors, or hyping the incomes of ordinary people. The best argument, an infallible one, is that a high capital gains tax seriously deters the workings of the free market by penalizing the shifting of opportunities from one resource to another as the capitalist sees fit.

What are other arguments?

Best wishes. rs

By Roberrt Snower

January 25th at 10:33pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

People like Ronald Smith above certainly wont help anyone. I guess being IGNORANT is bliss.
From Above:
enjoyed the president's state of the union address last night. we want obama for another 4 more years so that he can finish repairing all this mess that the republicans caused the previous 8 years before he was elected.

By ronald smith { To much drugs son}

By Homeless Beggar

January 25th at 10:30pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

President Obama was elected by the people and for the people. We had experienced 16 years of Bush Presidents and big business getting their way. The Republicans have spent the last 3 years and will continue this year I am sure on the same venue. DO NOT LET PRESIDENT OBAMA GET ANY CREDIT FOR ANYTHING GOOD THAT HAS HAPPENED AND STOP ANY GOOD NO MATTER WHAT THE COST UNTILL WE ARE BACK IN POWER. IT IS ALL ABOUT POWER AND NOT GOOD.. A major senior TV broadcastor summed up the last Congressional session by stating that it was the worst session in his historY as a broadcastor and that they, Republicans & Democrats alike, had accomplished absolutely nothing. If any employee that you or I pay to accomplish something DOES NOTHING, what would we do? Fire them on the spot. Yet CONGRESS continue spending our tax money to exist in a lifestyle that most of their constituiants do not enjoy. Unlike Bush, Obama allowed the military to pull the trigger on Bin Laudin, The economy is improving much to the Republicans regret. Small business works in small ways but has large impact. The world of Real Estate is an inherited problem that is going to take a long time to fix. Indiana has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country yet is lead and outnumbered by Republicans and the Demoncrats walk out and keep government from functioning. It is not politics but the economy of politics coupled with a mentality of what is in it for me that is ruining America. This country was founded on people who lost all they had to create it. Sustained by people who believed in a Union enough to die for it and a freedom that has been maintained by poor Americans that beleived in the American way while the advantaged continue to enjoy the good life and the families of those whose blood paided the price suffer in poverty and anguish.

The people that need to be replaced as Mr Kaiser stated are those in Congress that refuse to do what needs to be done to move America forward not a President of the people that is trying to accomplish change for most Americans.

The news media is like a pirana feeding on a live animal in the rivers of Brazil looking for fresh blood just for the sake of blood and as long as America feeds on their drival we are getting just what we deserve.

As Earl Pitts would say, "Stand up America!".

By Michael Morris

January 25th at 10:25pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I am not a business owner, nor do I work. I am a 63 year old retired person. My qualifications for my opinion are as follows. 98.6, breathing and I have common sense.

The only thing I can say about the Presidents speech last evening is this: GET HIM OUT.
I would vote for a skateboard before I would vote for him. He has B______d his way into the office, bankrupted the country, raided the coffers and has done it with a straight face and a teleprompter.

I think I may nominate myself. I could probably do as much damage as our clueless leader has done and I am a rank amateur.

By Sharon Jeffrey

January 25th at 10:21pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

i enjoyed the president's state of the union address last night. we want obama for another 4 more years so that he can finish repairing all this mess that the republicans caused the previous 8 years before he was elected.

By ronald smith

January 25th at 10:13pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

It is just more of the same from Mr. Obama. Same old lies, same old misguiding the public and making them think he is doing so much. He has had three years, going on four and has not accomplished anything but to get this Country deeper in debt, we will never recover from that miscarriage of his performance. I said before, he might be a nice person, "I'm still debating that" however, he was not qualified for that job. If people don't wake up this year and get him out of office, we are doomed. They need to identify the problems, state how they are going to resolve these problems without putting us further in the hole. As for me and my house, we have already cast our votes and hope that we have made a right choice.

By Jean Blizzard

January 25th at 9:36pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I was not impressed by the State of the Union address. Mr. Obama was campaigning NOT governing. The Obama Administration is VERY out of touch with reality - they are not improving our economy - the are hurting it. None of the ideas put forth last night will have any major impact on stimulating our economy. Americans need to take personal responsibility for the micro economy w/in their own household and stop blaming others. ON the 'macro' economic scale - the federal government is NOT the answer to our economic problems. Bureaucrats do not run anything efficiently yet Obama wants to create more 'watchdog' committees. He quoted President Lincoln on having a small federal government - but that is not what he is trying to accomplish. Great oratory skills are not the only quality required to be a good leader. Talk is cheap. For many years I conducted business with privately owned businesses, large corporations, county governments, city governments, state governments and I know from personal experience - we do NOT need more government. By the way, I am a conservative, business owner who is a Christian and I am very compassionate to the poor. In fact I help them in many ways - every week. Why am I saying this - because I am tired of the Democrats proporting that Republicans are not compassionate. That simply is not true.

By Brady Rodgers

January 25th at 9:23pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I liked the address and he pointed important things that was not on his plate when he took office. I believe that if he bailed out only factories like GM where jobs exist, he would have not been criticized. Bailing out banks and insurance companies was a big mistake! However, who knew that the Republican remnats of the Bush administration were fleecing the housing economy with their shananigan financing scheme which led to one of the worst economic crisis in our country. Bush was a sham!!

By L Susan

January 25th at 9:19pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Whew, if the comments here are indicative of how "small business" thinks I think the "small" must derive from the cerebrum size. Cookie-cutter Republican right-wing cant with a strong whiff of racism underlining it. While I am far from an advocate of the US government, which is an out-of-control corporate entity totally beholden to the military industrial complex, the "thoughts" shown here show a near total absence of, well, "thought." I guess this is what the Chamber of Commerce is all about: commerce, buying and selling no matter what. What America, and the world needs, is to learn how to live communally and with a far more modest appetite. We don't need all the junk our culture (and others) produce, and in fact it will end up killing us if we don't change our habits. We need to learn how to live on less, sharing what is available, and trashing the planet (and ourselves) less. Ah, but we're humans, and Pogo had us figured out a while back. The responses here provide ample proof of that.

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By Jon JOst

January 25th at 9:18pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I was highly disappointed with a repeat of the State of the Union address. He has had ample time to hire and fire people that can get this country out of debt and has had a majority in the Senate to pass anything that will get the country working and I have no confidence in him to make any attempt to do that. He's a borrowing fool and the fools who are the Taxpayers will be made to pay the piper.

By Sharon Brashears

January 25th at 8:56pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

The best way to start growing our economy is to remove Obama and as many democrats as possible. The next step is to reduce the federal government to as low a presence as possible in our lives.
And hope that Republicans will stand up for the same small government rather than joining the pork barrel handle in govenment programs. All the US must take cuts in federal largess - the arts, the farmers, the cities, all.... including us.
And get the federal government as completely as possible out of education. This is for the state and local governments to oversee and finance.

By elaine guenther

January 25th at 8:54pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

I respect the office of the President. However, I have no respect for the individual holding that office. There is a saying, "How can you tell if he is lying?" "His mouth is open" He is a socialist and a true Democratic.

He and the fellow Democrats know how and want to spend our money. Look at the amount that Obama and Biden has given to charitable add. They want to keep their money and spend the Americans' money.

We need to double down on our efforts to ensure that congress and the office of president becomes conservative Republicans.

I have often had the occasion to visit DC on business. I often felt dirty and ill at ease to see what is happening in DC.

We need to close Washington down, place it in the middle of Montana, place a 500 mile perimeter and under no circumstances allow lobbying, Make Congress a job of responsibility and 2 terms at the most.

By John Roberts

January 25th at 8:37pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

How can one comment on some one who opens his mouth and says nothing and lies his way through and people are dumb enough to believe him. I hear his voice and I cringe and look in his face and see a destroyer. When will people wake up. Maybe they should serve
pork instead of beef with all their white house holly wood parties they spend the tax payers money on and then they might have enough money to start paying our deficite down.

By Stella Johnson

January 25th at 8:28pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

While I support of the office of President of the United States, I cannot support the current administration. The speech was a campaign speech and there was not much value in it. The country is in dire straits and I am very concerned.

By Gail Krause

January 25th at 7:50pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

Everyone is saying small businesses is the key to the economy which is not true! The elephant in the room is the housing problem!!! Two-thirds of the GDP is tied to consumer spending and housing is the biggest. When a person or family buys a house the following happens:

1) copper for wiring (mining, smelters, electricians, and others)
2) wood for the framing and finishing of the house (lumber yards, loggers, framers, finishers, others)
3) heating and cooling (manufacturers, aluminum, copper, technicians, and others)
4) concrete (construction companies)
5) realtors, developers, financiers, and others
6) yard (Landscape developers, grass growers, grass seed workers)
7) insulation (installation workers, creators, and others)

I am sure I am leaving out a few. The focus shouldn't be on small businesses but what drives the small businesses and the large businesses!. And that is my two cents worth.

By Daryl Jones

January 25th at 7:45pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

We need to rein in the destructive tendencies of cowboy capitalism, whether on Wall Street or in the oil business: making a profit is NOT the most important thing in the world. Having a communal sense of responsibility to our society, and to the earth is far more important than making a zillion bucks. Business, as it repeatedly demonstrates, is not capable of policing itself. When left to do so it invariably lies to the public, becomes corrupted by narrow self-interests, and damages the society of which it is a part. Unfortunately government is the instrument required to address those abuses.

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By Jon JOst

January 25th at 7:32pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

The president continued his lies to the American public. He, and most of congress need to be replaced with people that truly interested in solving America's problems. The key is increasing small busness. To do this many current restrictions must be lifted so the small business can survive, and grow.

By Tom Kaiser

January 25th at 6:58pm in State of the Union: More Government or Free Enterprise?

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